Clifton Park Baseball League-Meeting Notes

 

Date:  May 4, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Gary Machina, Chris Berry, Marc Goldberg, Sharon Pizzo, Barry McCabe, Lori Munger, Carolyn Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, Larry Pittz

 

Absent:  John Novenche, John Drum

 

Others:  Tony Giunta, Chris Fama, John Muller

 

 

Actions:

 

Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 8:00 pm.   

 

1.  Joe McCrudden made a motion that board meetings for the months on June, July, and August, be held on Thursday evenings at 8:00 pm, due to conflicts with the Sunday travel schedule.  The motion was seconded by Marc Goldberg and passed unanimously. 

 

2.  John Muller attended the meeting to request that his son Mark be eligible for consideration to play on the 11 year old All Star team.  He explained that his family moved out of state last year due to a job change, and this year have returned. 

 

3.  Joe McCrudden asked the board for input about having individual Cooperstown teams fundraise through the league for their upcoming trips.  The board agreed that Cooperstown teams should not be using the league for additional fundraising as our families are already supporting the league. 

 

4.  Sharon Pizzo and Lori Munger were complimented by the board on all the work and positive changes that they have made to both concession stands.

 

5.  The board discussed creating a call list for when cancellation of games due to weather, is left up to the discretion of individual coaches.  During these times it is important that concession staff and umpires be notified of cancelled games.  For off-site games, the division directors will decide on the cancellation of games, as it does not affect umpires or concession.

 

6.  Dave Waldek made a motion to have the pitching limitations for travelgames be set at 70 pitches per game, excluding warm-ups.  The 2 inning limit rule would be excluded for travel games.  The motion was seconded by Sharon Pizzo and passed unanimously.

7.  The board discussed two options in forming the 13U Babe Ruth Travel team.  The options were to have an 18 player roster, or a 15 player roster.  A motion was made by Joe McCrudden that the 13U Babe Ruth Travel team have a 15 player roster, which is consistent with league rules.  The motion was seconded by Chris Berry.  Marc Goldberg was opposed.  The motion was passed. 

 

8.  The board discussed forming a Selection Committee, which would be made up of past Rec and Travel coaches, to draft the 13U Travel team.   Joe McCrudden made a motion to create a 5 person committee that would draft the 13U Travel team.  The motion was seconded by Larry Pittz and passed unanimously.

 

9.  In executive session the board approved of the following:

 

      a. Tim Purcell as the 13U Babe Ruth Travel coach.

b. Joe Colla, Gary Machina, Tony Giunta, Tim Purcell, and

     Marc Goldberg, to make up the 13U Travel Selection Committee.


10.  The next scheduled board meeting will be on Thursday, June 5th at
8 pm at the
upper quad meeting room.  All are invited to attend.  
 


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Date:  April 24, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Gary Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, Lori Munger, Sharon Pizzo, Marc Goldberg, Larry Pittz, Carolyn Machina     

 

Absent:  Chris Berry, Barry McCabe, John Novenche, John Drum

 

Others:  Jami Farkas

 

Actions:

 

1.  Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm.   

 

2.  Joe McCrudden made a motion to amend the minutes of the March 2nd board meeting to read: “The town of Clifton Park was working with Miss Shen on the scheduling of fields.  They resolved the issues to the satisfaction of both.”  The motion was seconded by Dave Waldek and approved by all. 

 

3.   Joe McCrudden reported that the sprinkler systems were up and running for all fields.  He also reported that dugouts for fields 9 and 10 would be completed in the next few weeks. 

 

4.  Dave Waldek proposed that all teams be given medical kits.  During these past few weeks of practices, the concession stand has not been open to access ice for minor injuries.  After some discussion it was decided that teams would be given medicals kits, and also that a schedule would be developed by Joe McCrudden and Carolyn Machina to ensure that a board member is at the fields during practices and games.   

 

5.  Sharon Pizzo reported that both upper and lower concession stands are set for opening day.  The league has hired 25 counter helpers and 10 shift supervisors to work at the upper and lower quad concession stands.

 

7.  Carolyn Machina reported that 4 applications for the CPBL Scholarships were received.  A committee consisting of Dave Waldek, John Drum, Jack Bloise, and Larry Pittz were asked to review the applications and make recommendations to the board.  The committee proposed that Bryan Hunter and Brady Farkas be the recipients of the two scholarships.   Carolyn Machina made a motion for Bryan Hunter and Brady Farkas to be the recipients of this year’s scholarships.  The motion was seconded by Joe McCrudden and passed unanimously.  

8.  Carolyn Machina made a motion to award the recipients of the CPBL Scholarships each a check for $750.00 instead of each a $750.00 saving bond as was awarded in the past.  The motion was seconded by Marc Goldberg and passed unanimously.

 

9.  In executive session the board approved of the following.

 

      a. Assistant coaches for Cal Ripken Majors.

      b. Head coaches and assistant coaches for the 12B Travel team.

      c. Head coaches and assistant coaches for the 12B Cooperstown team.

 

10.  Through e-mail on April 24, 2008, John Drum made a motion to exclude all unsalaried executive board members from CPBL’s workers compensation policy.  The motion was seconded by Marc Goldberg and was approved by all.

 

11.  The next scheduled board meeting will be on Sunday, May 4th at 8:00 pm at the upper quad meeting room.  All are invited to attend. 


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Date:  April 6, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Barry McCabe, Gary Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, John Novenche, John Drum, Chris Berry, Marc Goldberg, Larry Pittz, Carolyn Machina   

 

Absent:  Sharon Pizzo, Lori Munger

 

Others:  Chris Fama, Peter Kalish, Chris Cuttita, Tony Giunta, Chris Cox, Jose Moreno, Ed Dempsey, Chris Jupin, Tim Purcell

 

Actions:

 

1.  Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm, asked others in attendance to introduce themselves to the board, and welcomed all.

 
2.  John Drum shared with the board the monthly financial statement for the period ending March 31st, which included revenues from the winter programs and spring registration.

 

3.  Jose Moreno attended the meeting to request that his son be allowed to participate in the Dreams Park trip with the Cooperstown A team.  He initially showed no interest in having his son be on a Cooperstown team, but after learning the results of his son’s tryout, decided to make the request.  Joe McCrudden made a motion to allow Tony Moreno to participate in the Dreams Park trip with the Cooperstown A team.  The motion was seconded by Marc Goldberg and approval by all.  John Novenche abstained from the vote. 

 

 4.  Larry Pittz updated the board on the current registration.  The current total for 5 through 15 year olds is 1,085.  This is an increase of over 60 players from last year.

 

5.  John Novenche reported that there was a good turnout for the first field cleanup.  Dugouts for field 9 will be constructed this month, along with fence repairs to the upper and lower quads.  
 
6.  Board members and others in attendance had a productive conversation concerning tryouts and the selection process for Travel, All Star, and Cooperstown teams.  Some of the suggestions and topics that were discussed are listed below. 

  

  • Coaches of each division should rank players together in order to create consistent coach to coach ratings for each of the players.
  • Design a ranking system of the players to include prior years ranking by coaches.
  • Tryouts to be used only as a tool in selection.
  • Create provisions for new players to the league.
  • Choose the “right” coaches for our teams.
  • Let coaches pick their own team which the board and a committee would oversee. 
  • Organize outdoor tryouts in the fall for the following season.
  • Design tryouts that span several days.
  • Create a fairness committee.
  • Eliminate extra players in the pool to be drafted. 
  • Develop a committee of parents, board members and coaches to make changes to the current league procedures for tryouts and selection of teams.

 7.   Joe McCrudden made a motion that all coaches within a division, including 2 travel coaches, will meet together at the end of the rec season to rate each of the players within the division.  All teams must have an assistant coach attend if the head coach cannot be present.  The motion was seconded by Marc Goldberg and passed unanimously.

  

8.  A “Tryout and Selection Committee” was created to design and implement new procedures for Travel, All Star, and Cooperstown teams for the upcoming season.  The following individuals volunteered to serve on the committee.  Gary Machina, John Drum, Jack Bloise, Chris Cox, Chris Fama, Tony Giunta, Chris Berry, John Novenche, and Joe McCrudden.  Jack Bloise will be the Chair for this committee.   

  

9.  Marc Goldberg updated the board on the Babe Ruth division.  AAA will have 6 teams and Majors will have 5 teams.  Tryouts for travel teams will be announced later this month. 

  

10.  Dave Waldek finalized the game schedule for the Cal Ripken division, and made a motion to have the board approve the schedule.  The motion was seconded by Gary Machina and passed unanimously. 

 

11.  Barry McCabe made a motion to amend the lightning policy from a 20 minute wait to begin or resume play to a 30 minute wait to begin or resume play.  The motion was seconded by John Drum and passed unanimously. 

  

12.  Following a discussion of pitch counts by the board, Joe McCrudden made a motion to limit Cal Ripken pitchers to 2 innings per game or a maximum of 70 pitches per game, to include on field warm-up pitches.  The motion was seconded by Larry Pittz and passed unanimously.

 

 

13.  The board in executive session approved the following:

 

1.      Scott Virkler as head coach of the 10C Travel Team.

2.      Head coaches and assistant coaches for all travel teams.

3.      Payment for 3-umpire games.  


The next scheduled board meeting will be on Thursday, April 24th at 6:00 at the
upper quad meeting room.  All are welcome to attend. 

 

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Date:  March 13, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Barry McCabe, Gary Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, John Novenche, Chris Berry, Larry Pittz, Carolyn Machina

 

Others:  Jami Farkas, Scott Cornell, Duncan MacPherson, Chuck Latham

 

Absent:  Sharon Pizzo, Lori Munger, John Drum, Marc Goldberg

 

Actions:

 

1.  Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm and welcomed all.   

 

 

2.  Scott Cornell updated the league on sponsorship.  To date the league received $11,800 in sponsors.  Bellinis and Dakotas restaurants along with Hoffmans Carwash have also offered fundraising plans that the league can take advantage of.     

 

3.  Dave Waldek and Larry Pittz updated the board on current registration numbers for each division.

 

4.  Duncan MacPherson, director of the 5 year old division, and Chuck Latham, director of the 6 year old division, presented the league with their lists of head coaches for approval.  

 

5.  The league will put a “porta potty” at Okte and Tesago for the baseball season.  The cost will be $170 for each. 

 

6.  Joe McCrudden shared that the league will again host the “Wooden Bat Tournament”.  Information will be posted to the website when dates are finalized. 

 

7.  Joe McCrudden made a motion for the Connie Mack and Mickey Mantle player fees to be increased to $350.  Seconded by Gary Machina and passed unanimously. 

 

8.  Joe McCrudden presented Jami Farkas with an Outstanding Service Award.   The plaque was given from the board to recognize and thank her for all of her years of service to the league. 

 

9.  Jack Bloise discussed having defibrillators available at the lower and upper quads.  He will report back to the league with additional information, including training. 

 

10.  Gary Machina was asked to add our list of sponsors, possibly with logos, to the league website.

 

11.  Joe McCrudden made a motion to rescind the rule that says each coach must hand in two baseballs after each game.  The motion was seconded by John Novenche and passed unanimously. 

 

12.  The board in executive session approved the following:

 
a. Head coaches for the 5, 6, and 7 year old divisions.
b. Head coaches for the Majors division.
c. Jack Bloise and Peter Kalish as AAA travel coaches.

 

13.   The next scheduled board meeting will be Sunday, April 6th at 6:00 pm at the upper quad meeting room.  All are welcome to attend.


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Date:  March 2, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Barry McCabe, Gary Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, Lori Munger, Sharon Pizzo, John Novenche, John Drum, Chris Berry, Marc Goldberg, Carolyn Machina

 

Others:  Ted Kruk, Keith Jacques

 

Absent:  Larry Pittz

 

Actions:

 

  1. Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00pm.   

 

  1. John Drum gave the board members a financial statement for the month of February and reviewed each of the items. 

 

  1. Joe McCrudden shared the current registration numbers for each division from a spreadsheet that was created by Larry Pittz.  Dave Waldek led a discussion to decide on the number of teams/players for each division.

 

  1. Marc Goldberg updated the league on the registration numbers for the Babe Ruth division.  He reported that directors for Majors and AAA have not been chosen.  Two individuals have expressed interest in being the Majors director.  Marc Goldberg will review both and make a decision.

 

  1. A motion was made by Joe McCrudden to pay a field consultant to work with John Novenche to improve fields and facilities.   John Drum seconded the motion and the motion was passed unanimously.  The amount approved to pay the consultant was $1800.

 

  1. Dave Waldek provided the board with a listing of the 2008 Tryout Evaluators for review.  All tryout dates are set and have been scheduled at various locations.  All tryout information has been posted to the website.

 

  1. A motion was made by Joe McCrudden that the players of the 10 year old Cooperstown team that were chosen this past fall, also be the players for the A Travel Team.  The motion was seconded by John Novenche.  Keith Jacques pointed out that all players from the winter workout program were being looked at as possible additions to the team depending on their skills.  Four board members abstained from the vote.  The motion passed unanimously with the remaining board members.

 

  1. Keith Jacques attended the meeting to share and get approval of his head coach selections for the 10 year old division.  The board reviewed his selections in executive session.  

 

  1. John Novenche has secured a slot at the All Star Village in Cooperstown for a 12 year old B team for the week of June 21st.  Joe McCrudden made a motion that a deposit be sent to Cooperstown All Star Village.  The motion was seconded by Chris Berry and passed unanimously.  

 

  1. The Coaches Clinic which has been organized by Peter Kalish is scheduled for Saturday, April 5th at the Upper and Lower Quad.  The clinic will begin with a “Green and White” scrimmage which will be played by the Shen varsity team players.  The scrimmage will be followed by two separate clinics for the coaches, one at the lower quad and the other at the upper quad.  All coaches are expected to attend.

 

  1. Ted Kruk attended the meeting to share and get approval of his head coach selections for the 8 year old division.  The board reviewed his selections in executive session.  Joe McCrudden asked for Ted’s opinion about having an 8 year old travel team.  Ted thought that there would be an interest based on the numbers in the sluggers program, and that there would be enough players for a travel team, and also to continue the sluggers program.  He also thought that there would be coaches interested in coaching a travel team.    

 

  1. Joe McCrudden made a motion to authorize the use of $1000 to be taken from the Capitol Expenditure Fund for the purchase of a golf cart for concession stand use.  The motion was seconded by John Drum and passed unanimously. 

 

  1. After discussion initiated by Gary Machina, it was decided that the coaches seminar, which was to focus on CPBL policies and procedures, would not be possible with our current schedule.  It was suggested that a meeting of the directors be held that would cover these topics.       

 

  1. Joe McCrudden asked the board members to give thought to the use of pitch counts in our league.   Board members will bring their ideas to discuss at the next meeting. 

 

  1. The board reviewed the upcoming “Meet Your Coach Nights”.  Coaches and division directors are asked to be there approximately ½ hour early.  Packets to be distributed by coaches are set, along with the PC raffle tickets that will also be handed out. 

 

  1. Joe McCrudden informed the board that all Travel and All Star coaches will need to be certified according to Babe Ruth rules.  It is still unclear whether or not rec coaches will also need to be certified.

 

  1. Joe McCrudden reported that an agreement was reached between Miss Shen Softball and the Town of Clifton Park who wanted to take over scheduling of games on the Miss Shen fields.  Miss Shen will continue to schedule their own games and others will have use of the fields when they are not in use by Miss Shen teams.

 

  1. Joe McCrudden made a motion to donate $250 to the Shen Dugout Club, as in past years.  The motion was seconded by Gary Machina and was passed unanimously. 

 

  1. The board in executive session approved  the following.

 

a.       Duncan MacPherson as the T-ball Director.

b.      Head coaches for the 10 year old division. 

c.       Head coaches for the 8 year old division.

d.      Head coaches for the 9 year old division.

e.       Matt Schaefer as the head coach for Connie Mack.

f.        Roger Mason as head coach for Mickey Mantle.

a.       Steve Bronder as assistant coach for either Connie Mack or Mickey Mantle.

 

20.  The next scheduled board meeting will be Thursday, March 13th at 6:00 at the  Senior Center.  All are welcome to attend.

 

 

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Date:  February 10, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Barry McCabe, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, Lori Munger, Sharon Pizzo, John Novenche, John Drum, Chris Berry, Larry Pittz, Carolyn Machina         

 

Absent:  Marc Goldberg, Gary Machina

 

Others:  Scott Cornell, Peter Kalish, Carol Ann Lemon, Shawn Conroy, Mr. and Mrs. Conroy

 

Actions:

1.  Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00pm and welcomed all.   Joe presented Sean Conroy with an award for being selected, along with Reid Cunningham, to the 2007 Babe Ruth All State Team.  They were both selected based on their outstanding performance this past summer playing in the 15U State Tournament.

 

2.  John Drum gave the board an update on the financial report for the month.  He outlined money taken in from registration and also bills paid.

 

3.  Larry Pittz gave an update on the status of spring registration.  He will send out another e-mail and also post a notice in the Community News so that those who haven’t registered can do so by the deadline of February 29th.

 

4.  Peter Kalish has organized training for all coaches which will be held at the beginning of the season.  Peter also reported that dates for tryouts for all divisions, including travel teams, have been set.  Cal Ripkin Majors division and the 11 year old Travel teams will be held on March 16th at All Star Academy.  12 year old travel and Cooperstown tryouts will be on March 30th at the Adirondack Sports Complex.  The 9 and 10 year old divisions will have tryouts on March 30th at the High School East gymnasium.

 

5.  Joe McCrudden made a motion to hold a tryout for the Babe Ruth 13 and 14 year olds who want to play in the Majors division.  All 15 year olds would automatically be placed in the Majors division and based on the number of teams; the remaining slots would be filled with eligible 13 and 14 year old players.  A pool of eligible 13 and 14 year old players would be created by the CPBL sponsored tryout.  This pool of eligible players shall be 25% more than the actual number needed to be filled.  For example, if there 20 slots available, then the pool of 13 and 14 year olds shall be the TOP 25 players.  The coaches can then draft any player from this pool to fill out the rosters.  The motion was seconded by Chris Berry.  The motion was passed unanimously.  Joe made a second motion to state that any 13 year old who played in the Majors division last year would be grandfathered into the Majors division this year.  The motion was seconded by Jack Bloise and passed unanimously. 

 

6.  Joe McCrudden informed the board of the mandate from Babe Ruth that all coaches receive certification training.  It was questioned whether or not this training could take place for all coaches at one time, or would each coach have to go online individually to complete the training at a cost of $20 per coach?  It was decided that all of our coaches could not gather at one time.  The board will discuss this issue at a later date.

 

7.  Carolyn Machina discussed idea of having apparel to sell at “Meet Your Coach Night” and also on opening day.  After opening day, apparel will be sold from the concession stand.  All board members were open to this idea, and Carolyn will work with Sharon Pizzo and Lori Munger on this project.

 

8.  Carolyn Machina proposed that CPBL adapt a standard uniform for all players on each of our All Star teams.  Some samples were shared with the board, and after some discussion all agreed on having one standard uniform.  Carolyn will work with Carol Ann Lemon, the new uniform director, to choose a uniform.

 

9.  Chris Berry informed the board that 247 players were signed up for the winter workout program.  He suggested that with these large numbers scheduling for next year could be done sooner so that the league is given additional days and times.

 

10.  Dave Waldek reported that the practice and game schedule for Cal Ripkin is complete.  It will be posted to the web site. 

 

11.  The board discussed selecting an A and B Cooperstown team for the 12 year old division.  Dave Waldek made a motion that the 12 year old Cooperstown tryout be held at the Adirondack Sports Complex.  The motion was seconded by John Novenche and passed unanimously. 

 

12.  Joe McCrudden reported that he was contacted by Bellinis Restaurant with a fundraising proposal that would give the league a 5% return on the bill of any of our families who dined there.  All agreed that the league would benefit.

 

13.  In executive session the board approved John Novenche as the coach for the 12 A Cooperstown team.

 

14.  The next scheduled board meeting will be Sunday, March 2nd at 6:00 at the Senior Center.  All are welcome to attend.

 

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Date:  January 6, 2008

 

Attendance:

 

Present:  Joe McCrudden, Barry McCabe, Gary Machina, Jack Bloise, Dave Waldek, Lori Munger, Sharon Pizzo, John Novenche, John Drum, Chris Berry, Marc Goldberg, Larry Pittz, Carolyn Machina      

 

 

Others:  Tony Giunta, Kurt Bauerschmidt, Scott Cornell, Allison Bashkoff

 

Actions:

 

  1. Joe McCrudden called the meeting to order at 6:00pm, introduced others in attendance, and welcomed all.   

 

  1. Scott Cornell, Director of Signs and Sponsors, attended the meeting to gather information from the board and to brainstorm new ways of increasing sponsors. He would like to see each team have a sponsor.  Scott will be provided with a list of past sponsors from which to build from.   Some other ideas to increase sponsorship were;

 

    1. Adding a pop-up to the registration.
    2. Creating an advertisement booklet of sponsors.
    3. Creating a tab on the web for a link to the sponsors businesses.
    4. Adding a section on the newsletter for sponsors to contact the league.

 

  1. Barry McCabe discussed new policies of the Finance and Audit Committee in a handout he distributed concerning individual budgets, reimbursements of expenses, and purchases made on account.  The committee also developed a “Request for Reimbursement” form which must be submitted along with a receipt to John Drum for reimbursements.  These new policies were developed in order to have greater accountability of funds.  A motion was made to approve these new policies, Joe McCrudden seconded the motion and the motion was passed unanimously.     

 

  1. John Drum reviewed each of the budget items for the 2008 budget.  The budget included funds to cover the hiring of 2 shift supervisors and 3 counter helpers to be used at both the lower and upper quad concession stands.  John Drum made a motion to approve the hiring of concession workers, seconded by Sharon Pizzo.  Marc Goldberg was opposed to the idea of hiring individuals to work in the concession stand.  He believes that to this date we have been an all volunteer organization and that we should continue to be so.  The motion was passed.   

 

  1. John Drum made a motion to increase registration fees by $5 for t-ball players, $10 for 6 & 7 year old players, and $15 for all other divisions up to and including 15 year olds.  The motion was seconded by Dave Waldek and passed unanimously.  John Drum made the motion for the approval of the 2008 budget, seconded by Barry McCabe and was passed unanimously. 

 

  1. Allison Bashkoff, the Parents Auxiliary Treasurer, asked if additional information could be put on the website, for example, pictures of players and teams.  Sharon Pizzo shared information she had of a program at the high school that involved website design.  She will pass along her information to Gary Machina.   

 

  1. Marc Goldberg inquired about using “In Good Standings” to create our team schedules this year.  With the changes being made in the concession stand there will be a need for greater coordination.  Jack Bloise suggested setting up a committee to research scheduling and how to better improve coordination among all that it will affect.     

 

  1. Larry Pittz updated the board on spring registration.  Registration will be open through February 29th with a late fee of $25 for those posted after this date.  A notice will be in the Community News and in the league newsletter.  The registration form will also include an item requesting sponsorship.

 

  1. Chris Berry reported that the winter workouts are set to begin the last week in February.  The number of players registered has doubled from last year.  He will assign players to timeslots and do his best to accommodate all requests.

 

  1. Jack Bloise shared that the Price Chopper Raffle is set to go.  Parents will receive information at “Meet Your Coach Night” in March.

 

  1. Dave Waldek will organize the Majors Division tryouts.  They will be held at the All Star Academy on Sunday March 16th. 

 

  1. Joe McCrudden asked for suggestions on how to draft teams for the Babe Ruth Division, and questioned whether there should be a tryout.  This idea was discussed by the board with no resolution.

 

  1. Marc Goldberg introduced the idea of having an 18-22 year old recreational league.  He will gather more information and report back to the board. 

 

  1. Marc Goldberg suggested that the board reach out to the town now with a request for the CPBL to have future use of the land which is currently the soccer fields. 

  

  1. Allison Bashkoff spoke to the board with her idea that youth umpires should be paid on a weekly bases and from a fund separate from the concession stand register.  She believes that paying them after each game is disruptive to the concession stand at the end of each game, and that it is difficult to keep track of